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		<title>Bank &#8211; origin of the words, Jews, Italy, BANKI&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 21:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[the JEW TAKES the MONEY (as a Loan- fron a non-JEW) n as per the Deal PRE-NEGOTIATED. LOANS IT FORWARD TO ANOTHER PIOUS non-JEW!!! (no wonder JEWS rule! ok.) ie. Non-JEWS = Christians]]></category>
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(no wonder JEWS rule! ok.) ie. Non-JEWS =  Christians, muslims... ,
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so u too agree about the Jews&#8217; MONEY control!?</p>
<p>&#8230; but the moment u say that&#8230; its like &#8220;u too much into conspiracy stuff&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<h2>Trivia &#8211; the word<strong> BANK</strong>, is from the word &#8220;BANKI&#8221;- italian  i think!</h2>
<p>as per the SCRIPTURES (jews n chrstns alike even islam) don&#8217;t allow u to LEND money for INTEREST!!! so came in the JEWS for the HOLY (Roman) EMPIRE. n the Christians,</p>
<p>Christians wud go to a plce  like say a POST OFFICE, to do, all MONEY stuff!&#8221;</p>
<p>n there wud be lines on<strong> small STOOL (like-seat) where the JEWS wud sit</strong>, (like u see outside INDIAN COURTS/post offices)</p>
<p>n <strong>do all the MONEY stuff for the PIOUS CHRISTIANS,</strong></p>
<p>&#8230; so what happen(s) (yes even<strong> NOW!!!</strong>) is,</p>
<p>a NON-JEW, gives the MONEY TO THE JEW (sitting on his<span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong> BANKI</strong></span>), and</p>
<h2><strong>the JEW TAKES the MONEY (as a Loan- fron a non-JEW) n as per the Deal PRE-NEGOTIATED. </strong></h2>
<h2><strong>LOANS IT FORWARD TO ANOTHER PIOUS non-JEW!!! </strong></h2>
<p>(no wonder JEWS rule! ok.) ie. Non-JEWS =  Christians,  muslims&#8230;</p>
<p>EVEN in Mohd.(SMS &#8211; short for arabic may peace be upon him!!!)&#8217;s time CIRCA700ce.</p>
<p>similar was the role of Jews in the<strong> the muslim, world</strong>, n</p>
<p>Ko&#8217;ran even has LAWS FOR THEM (refered to them as THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK or DIMMIS- kind of less- respectfull)</p>
<p>n they had to pay a TAX/TOLL <em>( called GIZIA or ZIZIA &#8211; JIZIA or similar word)</em> so they cud live as non-MUSLIMs in MUSLIM LAND (even Arabia&#8217;s most venerated&#8230; places(dare i not say SHRINE- fatwa!!!) rem the recent surge in the word ISLAMIC BANKING?</p>
<p>BTW. what i have noticed is <strong>Saudi&#8217;s FLAG (when the KING is in the frame/picture) has changed it shape from the ROMAN STANDARD</strong> &#8211; yes even the INDIAN flag n all the other countries (EXPECTING NEPAL &#8211; the erst &#8211; while HINDU kingdom) w/ Prchnda &#8211; don&#8217;t knw what them neps wud do next ;-])</p>
<p>are the Traditions of the Romans (then the HOLY Roman Empire-Vatican)</p>
<p>Strange!!!</p>
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		<title>Till how much can u count using ur fingers?4,5,8,9,10,12,16,20!!! Indian &#8211; Hindu &#8211; American &#8211; European &#8211; Asian _ Japanese</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 20:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Udaiveer Singh Rathore</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Till how much can u count using ur fingers? don&#8217;t think about it, just start counting 1,2,3,,4&#8230; n Use u Hands ie. Fingers to tally mark with ur fingers. as u count. to make &#160;it easier close ur eyes. (samjha kya? ;-]]). TRY. count with ur fingers, &#160;&#60;param name=&#34;movie&#34; value=&#34;http://www.facebook.com/v/498290240730&#8221; /&#62;http://ahref= NOW Till how much [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=udaiveer.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5677645&amp;post=820&amp;subd=udaiveer&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Till how much can u count using ur fingers?</p>
<h2>don&#8217;t think about it, just start counting 1,2,3,,4&#8230; n</h2>
<p>Use u Hands ie. Fingers to tally mark with ur fingers. as u count. to make &#160;it easier close ur eyes. (samjha kya? ;-]]).</p>
<p>TRY.</p>
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<h1>count with ur fingers,</h1>
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<p>NOW</p>
<p>Till how much can u count&#8230;</p>
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<h1 style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#99cc00;">4,5,8,9,10,12,16,20!!!</span></h1>
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<p>(HINT-n the correct answer is the no. u choose froom the above&#8230;)</p>
<p>This is a kind of ethno-cognitive-kindda thing.</p>
<p>then see a video link i have posted on the web, n it kinds of shows,</p>
<p>How u can know/guess! how a person thinks, its a simple, thing, n u realise this when u not in India or related eastern countries</p>
<p>if ur answer is&#8230;, then u might be, thinking like a&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>4 &#8211; American, African</strong> ( n u start with ur index finger, of the LEFT HAND.</p>
<p>5 &#8211; don&#8217;t know/African &#8211; who did not under stand the question, exactly.</p>
<p>9 &#8211; Japanese &#8211; (start with little finger of the right hand (n count till4) n then they start w/ the&#160; lil finger of the Left hand, n count till 5 on this hand!!!)</p>
<p><strong>10- &#160;english/ european </strong>(start w/ index finger n use the other hand, to casp the finger being &#8211; counted. 9 n 10 are always the Thumbs!)</p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#ff0000;">12 or 16-Indian</span></strong> (they use the Joints of the Fingures to count upto 3/4 on each finger. Hence 4 anna(one finger) 8 anna(2 fingers. notice its double SIZE, n 1 finger more n also &#160;50 paisa is still called 8 anna in a lot of place in India still, even though its over 40 yrs since the annas stopped.</p>
<p>another reason why INDIANS only count up to 16, might be the way Hindus worship, &#160;mantra-jaap, not all Hindus use beads to tally the no. of times they have recieted the mantra. usually in hindus the number is 108 or 1008 (some &#160;BINARY thing!)</p>
<p>20-South Indian ( same as above, but there some how manage to!)</p>
<p>All the above statements/representation made, are true, to the best of my knowdlege n percetions,</p>
<p>I have done/still on&#8230; an experiment on a lot of travellers, who i bump, into. Randomly.</p>
<p>but by the end of it BOTH of US are WISER.</p>
<p>n a simple smile is the reward.</p>
<p>.-]</p>
<p>ps. its&#8217; a thing i haave noticed for a long time, while travelling around the continents.<br />
n I &#8220;realised&#8221; that WE the Indians are the only ones who can count up to 20 on their hands,<br />
ask an american n he will take off His SHOES ;-]]]
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WErGood2ANmals    WEGAN
WEG2A 
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Udaiveer Singh Rathore i am still curious about Vegans.
u can't be one in India! or tell me how do u manage to?
Thursday at 01:15 · Like

Shashank Dixit Udaiveer - On the contrary its the easiest I suppose to be a vegan in India..in broad terms , a vegetarian who leaves milk products is a vegan and its so easy to be a vegetarian in India..simple ? :)
Thursday at 08:01 · Like

Himani Shetty V uday whats std food in india? dhal roti sabzzi rice? sambar rasam idli upma vada pau chole rajma pulao veg chinese (without MSG) veg mexican cheeseless pizza puri's chutneys...we are indians... we have an evolved vegan cuisine....so what do u think vegan food is? salads? ;))
Thursday at 10:03 · Like ·  1 person

Yusuf Pirjade ‎@himani and @uday...v accept the vegan foods....but still there is lots of non veg food also...like chicken/mottun/ biryaani,(ch/mtn) makhani...masala..kababs...tandoories...many more gravies...countless dishesh....And One more thing All vegies are only vegies...but all non vegies are vegiee too...
Thursday at 10:27 · Unlike ·  1 person

Himani Shetty V agreed but if you dont need to hurt any animal for one snack/meal, why do it? what is taken with such pain, cannot get you any good. after all how much fun is food if you knew how sick what you are eating was?

the reality is today, hens and cows spend their lives cramped living in their own filth and waste. most hens ahve rashes and skin diseases because of the heat and filth, and are then eaten by people. goats and young lambs, that are like human babies only, are killed in front of each other. imagine watching a family being killed in front of their child. the fear the lamb feels will be the same dont you think?

if this was done to dogs cats and humans it would be a crime, but because these animals are very gentle, people hurt them so much. 
one meal is a small satisfaction if you think of the weeks, years and months of pain and fear that these sweet animals have to go through.
Thursday at 12:50 · Like ·  1 person

Yusuf Pirjade I love animals....but non vegiterian food coming from so may years...........eating in limits its very much gud for health......there is no end of this debate..truely....whatever ur doing is gr888888 but there always an exuse by nonvegies..keep it up...
Thursday at 15:06 · Unlike ·  1 person

Udaiveer Singh Rathore PLEASE, spell my name RIGHT.
as UDAIveer NOT udaY.
I am sure the milk that comes from my milkman is not, BLOOD-MILK!"
Animal Products should include Leather/fur etc. too. Right?
So, no leather Bags for u Him... no wool too.
what about Fish ? ( i bet they are off ur menu)
n what stops A Vegan from NOT HURTING plants. they too are alive, u know!
or rather what Jains do, don't eat anything that is grown/under ground.
n Jains do NOT DO FARMING. (choice-religious doctrine.)
their reasons make more logical sense than ur Vgn agenda.
Hey whats the Vgn Stand on Medical Trials done on animals? not make-up, but serious stuff. Don't tell me u are gonna argue w/ the Doctor, in a medical situation (well there is a Christian sect that does, not allow any usage of Medical-intervention- Totally Bollywood Style - they do BIG/maha PUJA n ask THE CHRIST to heal their Sick. (pl Comment)
Thursday at 19:58 · Like

Udaiveer Singh Rathore n why do i see the same Islam-ic, under tone, better be dead than NOT be a MUSLIM / Vegan(s)
( i use Islam as a reference cause the issue here WHAT IS RIGHT, and WHAT is PERCIEVED to be Right/TRUE)
n u truly believe in what u say. n want to Speard it like a religion. (one cud also say Christianity, but off late the FUNDAMENTALIST are on a defensive mode, Darwin Blew their Arc to bits!)
#HIMani as u had used the word Evolved, i guess u might also agree with the Darwin-ian concept of Species n evoltion.
Then THESE Human Values, or our Superiority Complex, is just a ONE-Way love affair. i mean don't expect a (mad/sick) dog not to Bite u casue u a Vegan or volley for PETA.
Thursday at 20:08 · Like

Udaiveer Singh Rathore talking about Human Values,
the kind of treatment humans met out to other humans is "in-humane".
Torture in the name of Religion, SOCIETY(sic).
Murders show How brutal Humans are, even to their own Kin.
What about food-oil politics that leads to millions being denied ADEQUATE Food. ( America can have a bumper harvest, n they will trow the grain into the sea rather than "give" it African countries.)

... some Fodder for ur case,
humans turned to eating Meat in a large way, just after they figured out FIRE. our stomach is not well-equiped to handle raw meat/blood.
Thursday at 20:19 · Like

Udaiveer Singh Rathore Ever given a thought, that in every city (big/small) in the WORLD, that has a Zoo n we keep all the Pri-mates (human-like Apes - like Chimps, Gorillas orangutanes...) who are less than 1% different genetically, from HUMANs,
Locked up in Display cells/jail, in the name of education. (ZOO) for our KIDS.
Vegan me THIS!!!
;-]
Thursday at 20:25 · Like

Melina Jacques The way I see it, vegans know there will always be pain and suffering in the world but we are doing what we can to minimize it. Why buy a leather bag, or a wool sweater. when there are perfectly good alternatives? Why choose a meat-based meal, when a plant-based meal is also very delicious and healthier for you? Why do medical testing on animals, when it is a proven fact that many medicines which work one way on animals, will have a completely different effect on humans? Animal testing is pretty much useless and there is no valid reason why all this torture and death should take place. The fact is that our oceans are quickly running out of fish. If the world was vegan, this would not be the case. If the world was vegan, there would be no zoos, and no circuses.. no use at all of animals for entertainment, as we oppose this. You can call it trying to convert... not all vegans are activists. We do not all have that intolerance you mention. We wish to educate and open people's eyes to the reality of the situation because if more people would go vegan, there would be less pain and suffering in the world. Simple as that.
Friday at 12:06 · Unlike ·  1 person

Melina Jacques by the way, you cannot compare the suffering of a broccoli or potato to the suffering of a pig which has the intelligence of a 3 year old child. Or turkeys which are intelligent, social birds and have individual personalities just like dogs. We have to eat to survive. Question is, why kill that turkey if you don't have to?
Friday at 12:17 · Like

Sneha Poojary Just because we have been doing things for years doesn't mean we need to continue doing the same. We held slaves for most of our existence as a species; we treated women and children as property, and so on, but of course, that didn't make it right. 

Veganism is not a pseudo religion - there is no scripture. It is often something that people arrive at quite independently as a matter of ethical reasoning. When we make compassionate choices, we stand up for the weakest among us. Those who rely entirely on your ability to show compassion.
Friday at 16:48 · Like

Udaiveer Singh Rathore ‎@melina,
the 1st Vegan i met, u can TALK, sense. (well relative to others)
Agree w/ u on a lot of moot points,
Close all Zoo(s) go 2 east Africa, (its a mind EXPLODING experience), but this will also be very anti-vegan-ish too, as u realise the Gnu/Wilder- beast is just LION FOOD!!! n all animals r into killing n eating (so y shud we not?)
At-least Start w/ freeing the great Apes (pri-mates - our evolutionary cousins)
Disagree on Clinical trials on Animals, as far as i knw (am pretty sure)
First the drug/medicine is made/invented, then they do a theory check on it(toxics etc), then come in Animals, cause, they are much better subsitutes than humans or brocolli! ;-] n then at theh 3/4 satge is the Human trials, (n hey that too is becoming un-ethical, as large MNC's r doing all the Human trials in countries like India, where the the Laws r just suggestive, instead of EU. or USA.)

n as u said the PIG, is bio-anatomically very close/similar to humans, another wud be be the LAB RAT (white, w/ red eyes - these rats are MAN-MADE for lab testing. n can't live out of the labs-cause of induced changes in their body)

n what is the Basis on which u make this observation that INTELLIGENCE is a pri-requestic for PAIN/suffering.
at best we don't know, n pushing it (vegan-principle) they too are ALIVE, just cause, they don't YELP or YELL, we ASSUME, what suits us?!!
Y do u play GOD n decide, u can be killed n u can't???
does this not amount to discrimination, or cherry picking...
Friday at 19:59 · Like

Udaiveer Singh Rathore ‎@sneha,
u r pre-judiced!!! as
no one calls Vegan(-ism) a religion. For the good of u n vegans, do call ur self a religion or insult urself by saying pseudo-religion!!! ( i hope u get i'm saying!)
n the WORST U CAN DO IS ADD THE "-ISM". n then all are free to do as they please, cause they already have their own -ism(s). (religions/sects/scriptures)
n theoritically, a SCRIPTURE is not a pre-requistic to religion.
if by scripture u mean, a doctrine/dogma, then sure Vegans do have their DOs n DON'Ts (right? as shown above)
n there is a Vegan way of LIFE! so u are short of being a religion, n more than Activism.
But the dos/donts vegans follow/have puts them at Logger heads with most of the religions ( all the Jerusulam-abad ones, judeo-christian-islam) Hindu-ism (even Buddhism n Jainism, but not so much)
If in OUR country, where almost 80% ppl r Hindus, COW-slaughter is Still allowed. (info for non-Hindus - a COW - not a BULL - is Sacred, n a living divinity) sans Gujrat, but then Modi n co. kill muslims who kill the COWS!!! funny funny ways of the world/power. NO?) ;-]
btw. in Jammu n Kashmir it is(still-kind of) ILL-LEGAL to Kill a Cow, cause of the Penal Code they had pre- accession to India - refered to as the HARI SINGH Penal Code (Hari Singh was a staunch- HINDU-Dogra King, w/ his capital in Jammu(for winters) n Srinagar(for Summers) n this Practice of shifting the capital STILL HAPPENS EVERY YEAR!!! they have conveys of trucks n cars n more trucks that, do the shifting...
ooops gone on a tangent...
but WE are a Strange country. no?

PS. what is the Vegan stand on Gandhi? ( he loved goat's milk!) n considered MODERN MEDICINE to do Black Magic/ alchemy... the hospitals are the havens for the DEVIL. ( not kidding, i can scan n send u the pages from a book on Gandhi n Jinnah- who loved pork!!!)
Friday at 20:23 · Like

Sneha Poojary ‎@ Udaiveer. 

All animals are into killing and eating. Correct. But they cannot make ethical choices like we can. Personally I do not support conservation of one sentient species to kill another sentient species.

About plants
Meat producing animals are all fed vast quantities of plants in order to produce meat. If plants were capable of feeling pain then anyone who eats meat and deploys this argument is simply making a case that they are causing the needless suffering of many many times more plants than vegans. 

And about experiments...
Suppose the only way to save those 10,000 people was to experiment on one mentally challenged orphan. If saving people is the goal, wouldn't that be worth it? Most people will agree that it is wrong to sacrifice one human for the ‘greater good’ of others because it would violate that individual’s rights. But when it comes to sacrificing animals, the assumption is that human beings have rights while animals do not. Yet there is no logical reason to deny animals the same rights that protect individual humans from being sacrificed for the common good.

And about LAB RAT. It shows the kind of favor we are doing to these animals by bringing them into this kind of existence and abusing them.
Friday at 20:26 · Like

Sneha Poojary I am personally not a big fan of hypocrites. So I do not follow them too... So its waste using names and asking me 'what about them?' 
And who are you referring to when you say u are short of being a religion, n more than Activism? I am not a Vegan because they showed Gandhi in some Vegan posters. I do not care. what I care about is the animals made to suffer. 
And these politicians. Ah! Planning to gain votes in the name of religion.
Friday at 20:33 · Like

Udaiveer Singh Rathore ‎@sneha 
u a QUICK GUN MURUGAN ;-]
wait till i have my masala dosai.
I WILL BE BACK. ASTALAVISTA
gtg
Friday at 20:37 · Like

Udaiveer Singh Rathore me. too.
read udaiveer.wordpress.com.
sum stuff u will find, er... offensive.
some might make sense, that we ARE ON THE SAME SIDE.
Just cause i am asking for Directions, doesnt mean I am TOTALLY LOST
Friday at 20:41 · Like

Sneha Poojary Ah!... where did my comment go?!! o_O
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<address>Udaiveer Singh Rathore i am still curious about Vegans.<br />
u can't be one in India! or tell me how do u manage to?<br />
Thursday at 01:15 · Like</p>
<p>Shashank Dixit Udaiveer - On the contrary its the easiest I suppose to be a vegan in India..in broad terms , a vegetarian who leaves milk products is a vegan and its so easy to be a vegetarian in India..simple ? <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Thursday at 08:01 · Like</p>
<p>Himani Shetty V uday whats std food in india? dhal roti sabzzi rice? sambar rasam idli upma vada pau chole rajma pulao veg chinese (without MSG) veg mexican cheeseless pizza puri's chutneys...we are indians... we have an evolved vegan cuisine....so what do u think vegan food is? salads? <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> )<br />
Thursday at 10:03 · Like ·  1 person</p>
<p>Yusuf Pirjade ‎@himani and @uday...v accept the vegan foods....but still there is lots of non veg food also...like chicken/mottun/ biryaani,(ch/mtn) makhani...masala..kababs...tandoories...many more gravies...countless dishesh....And One more thing All vegies are only vegies...but all non vegies are vegiee too...<br />
Thursday at 10:27 · Unlike ·  1 person</p>
<p>Himani Shetty V agreed but if you dont need to hurt any animal for one snack/meal, why do it? what is taken with such pain, cannot get you any good. after all how much fun is food if you knew how sick what you are eating was?</p>
<p>the reality is today, hens and cows spend their lives cramped living in their own filth and waste. most hens ahve rashes and skin diseases because of the heat and filth, and are then eaten by people. goats and young lambs, that are like human babies only, are killed in front of each other. imagine watching a family being killed in front of their child. the fear the lamb feels will be the same dont you think?</p>
<p>if this was done to dogs cats and humans it would be a crime, but because these animals are very gentle, people hurt them so much.<br />
one meal is a small satisfaction if you think of the weeks, years and months of pain and fear that these sweet animals have to go through.<br />
Thursday at 12:50 · Like ·  1 person</p>
<p>Yusuf Pirjade I love animals....but non vegiterian food coming from so may years...........eating in limits its very much gud for health......there is no end of this debate..truely....whatever ur doing is gr888888 but there always an exuse by nonvegies..keep it up...<br />
Thursday at 15:06 · Unlike ·  1 person</p>
<p>Udaiveer Singh Rathore PLEASE, spell my name RIGHT.<br />
as UDAIveer NOT udaY.<br />
I am sure the milk that comes from my milkman is not, BLOOD-MILK!"<br />
Animal Products should include Leather/fur etc. too. Right?<br />
So, no leather Bags for u Him... no wool too.<br />
what about Fish ? ( i bet they are off ur menu)<br />
n what stops A Vegan from NOT HURTING plants. they too are alive, u know!<br />
or rather what Jains do, don't eat anything that is grown/under ground.<br />
n Jains do NOT DO FARMING. (choice-religious doctrine.)<br />
their reasons make more logical sense than ur Vgn agenda.<br />
Hey whats the Vgn Stand on Medical Trials done on animals? not make-up, but serious stuff. Don't tell me u are gonna argue w/ the Doctor, in a medical situation (well there is a Christian sect that does, not allow any usage of Medical-intervention- Totally Bollywood Style - they do BIG/maha PUJA n ask THE CHRIST to heal their Sick. (pl Comment)<br />
Thursday at 19:58 · Like</p>
<p>Udaiveer Singh Rathore n why do i see the same Islam-ic, under tone, better be dead than NOT be a MUSLIM / Vegan(s)<br />
( i use Islam as a reference cause the issue here WHAT IS RIGHT, and WHAT is PERCIEVED to be Right/TRUE)<br />
n u truly believe in what u say. n want to Speard it like a religion. (one cud also say Christianity, but off late the FUNDAMENTALIST are on a defensive mode, Darwin Blew their Arc to bits!)<br />
#HIMani as u had used the word Evolved, i guess u might also agree with the Darwin-ian concept of Species n evoltion.<br />
Then THESE Human Values, or our Superiority Complex, is just a ONE-Way love affair. i mean don't expect a (mad/sick) dog not to Bite u casue u a Vegan or volley for PETA.<br />
Thursday at 20:08 · Like</p>
<p>Udaiveer Singh Rathore talking about Human Values,<br />
the kind of treatment humans met out to other humans is "in-humane".<br />
Torture in the name of Religion, SOCIETY(sic).<br />
Murders show How brutal Humans are, even to their own Kin.<br />
What about food-oil politics that leads to millions being denied ADEQUATE Food. ( America can have a bumper harvest, n they will trow the grain into the sea rather than "give" it African countries.)</p>
<p>... some Fodder for ur case,<br />
humans turned to eating Meat in a large way, just after they figured out FIRE. our stomach is not well-equiped to handle raw meat/blood.<br />
Thursday at 20:19 · Like</p>
<p>Udaiveer Singh Rathore Ever given a thought, that in every city (big/small) in the WORLD, that has a Zoo n we keep all the Pri-mates (human-like Apes - like Chimps, Gorillas orangutanes...) who are less than 1% different genetically, from HUMANs,<br />
Locked up in Display cells/jail, in the name of education. (ZOO) for our KIDS.<br />
Vegan me THIS!!!<br />
;-]<br />
Thursday at 20:25 · Like</p>
<p>Melina Jacques The way I see it, vegans know there will always be pain and suffering in the world but we are doing what we can to minimize it. Why buy a leather bag, or a wool sweater. when there are perfectly good alternatives? Why choose a meat-based meal, when a plant-based meal is also very delicious and healthier for you? Why do medical testing on animals, when it is a proven fact that many medicines which work one way on animals, will have a completely different effect on humans? Animal testing is pretty much useless and there is no valid reason why all this torture and death should take place. The fact is that our oceans are quickly running out of fish. If the world was vegan, this would not be the case. If the world was vegan, there would be no zoos, and no circuses.. no use at all of animals for entertainment, as we oppose this. You can call it trying to convert&#8230; not all vegans are activists. We do not all have that intolerance you mention. We wish to educate and open people&#8217;s eyes to the reality of the situation because if more people would go vegan, there would be less pain and suffering in the world. Simple as that.<br />
Friday at 12:06 · Unlike ·  1 person</p>
<p>Melina Jacques by the way, you cannot compare the suffering of a broccoli or potato to the suffering of a pig which has the intelligence of a 3 year old child. Or turkeys which are intelligent, social birds and have individual personalities just like dogs. We have to eat to survive. Question is, why kill that turkey if you don&#8217;t have to?<br />
Friday at 12:17 · Like</p>
<p>Sneha Poojary Just because we have been doing things for years doesn&#8217;t mean we need to continue doing the same. We held slaves for most of our existence as a species; we treated women and children as property, and so on, but of course, that didn&#8217;t make it right.</p>
<p>Veganism is not a pseudo religion &#8211; there is no scripture. It is often something that people arrive at quite independently as a matter of ethical reasoning. When we make compassionate choices, we stand up for the weakest among us. Those who rely entirely on your ability to show compassion.<br />
Friday at 16:48 · Like</p>
<p>Udaiveer Singh Rathore ‎@melina,<br />
the 1st Vegan i met, u can TALK, sense. (well relative to others)<br />
Agree w/ u on a lot of moot points,<br />
Close all Zoo(s) go 2 east Africa, (its a mind EXPLODING experience), but this will also be very anti-vegan-ish too, as u realise the Gnu/Wilder- beast is just LION FOOD!!! n all animals r into killing n eating (so y shud we not?)<br />
At-least Start w/ freeing the great Apes (pri-mates &#8211; our evolutionary cousins)<br />
Disagree on Clinical trials on Animals, as far as i knw (am pretty sure)<br />
First the drug/medicine is made/invented, then they do a theory check on it(toxics etc), then come in Animals, cause, they are much better subsitutes than humans or brocolli! ;-] n then at theh 3/4 satge is the Human trials, (n hey that too is becoming un-ethical, as large MNC&#8217;s r doing all the Human trials in countries like India, where the the Laws r just suggestive, instead of EU. or USA.)</p>
<p>n as u said the PIG, is bio-anatomically very close/similar to humans, another wud be be the LAB RAT (white, w/ red eyes &#8211; these rats are MAN-MADE for lab testing. n can&#8217;t live out of the labs-cause of induced changes in their body)</p>
<p>n what is the Basis on which u make this observation that INTELLIGENCE is a pri-requestic for PAIN/suffering.<br />
at best we don&#8217;t know, n pushing it (vegan-principle) they too are ALIVE, just cause, they don&#8217;t YELP or YELL, we ASSUME, what suits us?!!<br />
Y do u play GOD n decide, u can be killed n u can&#8217;t???<br />
does this not amount to discrimination, or cherry picking&#8230;<br />
Friday at 19:59 · Like</p>
<p>Udaiveer Singh Rathore ‎@sneha,<br />
u r pre-judiced!!! as<br />
no one calls Vegan(-ism) a religion. For the good of u n vegans, do call ur self a religion or insult urself by saying pseudo-religion!!! ( i hope u get i&#8217;m saying!)<br />
n the WORST U CAN DO IS ADD THE &#8220;-ISM&#8221;. n then all are free to do as they please, cause they already have their own -ism(s). (religions/sects/scriptures)<br />
n theoritically, a SCRIPTURE is not a pre-requistic to religion.<br />
if by scripture u mean, a doctrine/dogma, then sure Vegans do have their DOs n DON&#8217;Ts (right? as shown above)<br />
n there is a Vegan way of LIFE! so u are short of being a religion, n more than Activism.<br />
But the dos/donts vegans follow/have puts them at Logger heads with most of the religions ( all the Jerusulam-abad ones, judeo-christian-islam) Hindu-ism (even Buddhism n Jainism, but not so much)<br />
If in OUR country, where almost 80% ppl r Hindus, COW-slaughter is Still allowed. (info for non-Hindus &#8211; a COW &#8211; not a BULL &#8211; is Sacred, n a living divinity) sans Gujrat, but then Modi n co. kill muslims who kill the COWS!!! funny funny ways of the world/power. NO?) ;-]<br />
btw. in Jammu n Kashmir it is(still-kind of) ILL-LEGAL to Kill a Cow, cause of the Penal Code they had pre- accession to India &#8211; refered to as the HARI SINGH Penal Code (Hari Singh was a staunch- HINDU-Dogra King, w/ his capital in Jammu(for winters) n Srinagar(for Summers) n this Practice of shifting the capital STILL HAPPENS EVERY YEAR!!! they have conveys of trucks n cars n more trucks that, do the shifting&#8230;<br />
ooops gone on a tangent&#8230;<br />
but WE are a Strange country. no?</p>
<p>PS. what is the Vegan stand on Gandhi? ( he loved goat&#8217;s milk!) n considered MODERN MEDICINE to do Black Magic/ alchemy&#8230; the hospitals are the havens for the DEVIL. ( not kidding, i can scan n send u the pages from a book on Gandhi n Jinnah- who loved pork!!!)<br />
Friday at 20:23 · Like</p>
<p>Sneha Poojary ‎@ Udaiveer.</p>
<p>All animals are into killing and eating. Correct. But they cannot make ethical choices like we can. Personally I do not support conservation of one sentient species to kill another sentient species.</p>
<p>About plants<br />
Meat producing animals are all fed vast quantities of plants in order to produce meat. If plants were capable of feeling pain then anyone who eats meat and deploys this argument is simply making a case that they are causing the needless suffering of many many times more plants than vegans.</p>
<p>And about experiments&#8230;<br />
Suppose the only way to save those 10,000 people was to experiment on one mentally challenged orphan. If saving people is the goal, wouldn&#8217;t that be worth it? Most people will agree that it is wrong to sacrifice one human for the ‘greater good’ of others because it would violate that individual’s rights. But when it comes to sacrificing animals, the assumption is that human beings have rights while animals do not. Yet there is no logical reason to deny animals the same rights that protect individual humans from being sacrificed for the common good.</p>
<p>And about LAB RAT. It shows the kind of favor we are doing to these animals by bringing them into this kind of existence and abusing them.<br />
Friday at 20:26 · Like</p>
<p>Sneha Poojary I am personally not a big fan of hypocrites. So I do not follow them too&#8230; So its waste using names and asking me &#8216;what about them?&#8217;<br />
And who are you referring to when you say u are short of being a religion, n more than Activism? I am not a Vegan because they showed Gandhi in some Vegan posters. I do not care. what I care about is the animals made to suffer.<br />
And these politicians. Ah! Planning to gain votes in the name of religion.<br />
Friday at 20:33 · Like</p>
<p>Udaiveer Singh Rathore ‎@sneha<br />
u a QUICK GUN MURUGAN ;-]<br />
wait till i have my masala dosai.<br />
I WILL BE BACK. ASTALAVISTA<br />
gtg<br />
Friday at 20:37 · Like</p>
<p>Udaiveer Singh Rathore me. too.<br />
read udaiveer.wordpress.com.<br />
sum stuff u will find, er&#8230; offensive.<br />
some might make sense, that we ARE ON THE SAME SIDE.<br />
Just cause i am asking for Directions, doesnt mean I am TOTALLY LOST<br />
Friday at 20:41 · Like</p>
<p>Sneha Poojary Ah!&#8230; where did my comment go?!! o_O<br />
Friday at 20:42 ·</p>
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<address>@sneha. whuch comment. btw it was my turn.<br />
#&#8221;&#8230;fan of Hypocrites.&#8221;<br />
You mean &#8211; as in ppl who kinda have double standard or<br />
- Hippocrates (GREEK-philoshosher-ish guy) from who we Hippocratic oath since it was first proposed by Hippocrates, known as the father of modern medicine. Even today all medical doctors take this OATH, almost all over the world.<br />
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<address>google &#8221;  Hippocrates, Hippocratic oath&#8221;<br />
quite a compassionate one?!?<br />
- cause last i ccommented on was modern medicine. hence wana check.<br />
#about &#8220;experimenting on a mentally chlgd person vis-a-vis 10000 ppl.<br />
come on answer is simple. i will b ok w/ it even it were my kid!!!</p>
<p>Read some South American culters like Maya&#8230;  n others,<br />
there to appaese the Gods for some favour like say Rain or war etc.<br />
THING WUD HAVE TO SACRIFICE HIS OWN VERY DAUGHTR ( had to be a VIRGIN to boot !; -]</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there was this t-shirt, i had in college&#8230;</p>
<h2>i am STILL  <strong>BLACK</strong>&#8230; , or,</h2>
<h1>me COLOURED&#8230;?</h1>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">hey <span style="color:#808080;"><strong>WHITE</strong></span> &#8211; boy.</p>
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<h3>u get sick u turn <strong><span style="color:#ffcc00;">YELLOW</span></strong>,</h3>
<h3>u angry u turn <strong><span style="color:#ff0000;">RED</span></strong>,</h3>
<h3>u get beaten u turn <span style="color:#3366ff;">BLUE</span></h3>
<h3>u get the sun, u turn <strong><span style="color:#993300;">BROWN</span></strong>,</h3>
<p>u get scared u turn PALE</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">&#8230; (n a few more&#8230;)</p>
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<h1>n u have the balls to call me COLOURED</h1>
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 ELECTRIC WIRES ( called Taare, or tarae) n street lights (i generally carry a wire-cutter... to CONTROL THE STREET LIGHTING!!!!- very simple)
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me too. a photographer,</p>
<p>well, its a Oxymoron of a  wrd, 4 what i like doing,<br />
shooting(photographing ) in the NIGHT. (DOGMATICALLY &#8211; <strong>NO OWN Light Source</strong> ie. Flash etc.<br />
I do Very long exposures (avg 30+ sec.s to 30 mins.!</p>
<p>I just came in from shooting the whole night.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">COPS n bull as usual.</p>
<p style="padding-left:90px;">The Idea i was doing was &#8220;Taare&#8221; ie. STARS, n  playing on the word &#8220;Taare&#8221;, I shot&#8230;</p>
<h2 style="padding-left:90px;text-align:justify;">ELECTRIC WIRES ( called Taare, or tarae) n street lights<em> (i generally carry a wire-cutter&#8230; to CONTROL THE STREET LIGHTING!!!!- very simple)</em><br />
<span style="color:#333399;">Most of the <strong>pix are for &#8220;HDR&#8221; </strong>( +/- 2 to  6 stops, difference for some shots)</span><br />
<span style="color:#333399;"> Can&#8217;t say was good, Lets see what tricks i can pull out of the Mac.</span></h2>
<h2 style="padding-left:90px;text-align:justify;"><span style="color:#333399;"> the verse</span></h2>
<h2 style="padding-left:90px;text-align:justify;"><span style="color:#333399;">STARS n WIRES</span><br />
<span style="color:#333399;">Aap ke Taare asmaan mein,</span></h2>
<h2 style="padding-left:90px;text-align:justify;"><span style="color:#333399;">Amir Khan ke Taare zameen pe,</span></h2>
<h2 style="padding-left:90px;text-align:justify;"><span style="color:#333399;">aur</span></h2>
<h2 style="padding-left:90px;text-align:justify;"><span style="color:#333399;"> hamare Taare, toh Khambo par hee Latak Rahe hai!</span></h2>
<p style="padding-left:90px;">Here a trial</p>
<p style="padding-left:90px;">&nbsp;</p>
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<h2 style="padding-left:90px;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;color:#008000;"> i have done a similar thing before, &#8220;Chaand-Taare&#8221; &#8211; Muslims didnt like stuff!</span></h2>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Neelesh<br />
I prefer a label on my forehead to blinkers on my eyes.<br />
Information | Birthday: 04 May 1973 | Current location: Mumbai, India<br />
Website:<a href="http://www.neeleshmisra.com">http://www.neeleshmisra.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.rovingwriter.blogspot.com">http://www.rovingwriter.blogspot.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.bandcallednine.com">http://www.bandcallednine.com</a><br />
Neelesh Misra</p>
<h2>Neelesh Misra When I become very rich, I will build a 10,000-storey building in Mumbai and rent out apartments ONLY to those this city&#8217;s landlords turn away: Muslims, Kashmiri Muslims, single men, single women.</h2>
<p>Saturday at 00:15</p>
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<li>Sanjay Kaw Yaar what about married Kashmiri Hindus like me&#8230;<br />
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<li>Kavita Palsekar AMEN sir i know you shall&#8230; <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Saturday at 00:19 · Like</li>
<li>Neeraj Bhushan And one big hall (just) for friends.<br />
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<li>Jatin Gandhi I will use the lift of your building to go to the moon.<br />
Saturday at 00:25 · Unlike ·  1 person</li>
<li>Neelesh Misra <a href="mailto:‎@Jatin">‎@Jatin</a>: No, Gandhis not allowed to enter. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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<li>Kavita Palsekar ‎:) ha ha sir how quick of you&#8230; gudnite sir.<br />
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<li>Shah Nawaz Khan lagta hai aap bhi Zakhmi hue hai Ghar ki talaash mien..<br />
nevertheless wonderful thought of building&#8230;..storey Apartments.<br />
Saturday at 00:34 · Like</li>
<li>Manish Sharrma we will fly kites from its top floor and they will touch the moon for sure &#8230;<br />
Saturday at 01:19 · Like</li>
<li>Shayda Bano how sweet&#8230;please make one building in chandigarh also&#8230;and do not forget to keep the rent low ..<br />
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<li>Sumegha Gulati waah waah waah!!<br />
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<li>Riffat Masood And hopefully pakistani diplomats once and whenever we reset up our consulate there<br />
Saturday at 02:42 · Like</li>
<li>Anjali Rawat Way to go&#8230;&#8230;<br />
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<li>Vivekanand Ahuja ‎10,000 storeys matlab 100,000 ft high&#8230; Mumbai mein permission nahi milega&#8230; you&#8217;ll have to make it somewhere in a valley in Khandala, which will defeat the purpose.<br />
Of course you never know maybe by that time Khandala will be part of Mu&#8230;<br />
See more<br />
Saturday at 07:28 · Like</li>
<li>Manisha Pandey Unwed Mothers ?<br />
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<li>Ruchira Hoon-Philip When I get rich, I will break your building down and build a restaurant<br />
Saturday at 09:26 · Like</li>
<li>Monika Bakshi Singh Great thought&#8230;But, would you really do then??? if you do..I&#8217;l come to pat your back&#8230;for now my best wishes for your wish<br />
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<li>Shahnawaz Malik al deprived ppl<br />
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<li>Juhi Kaul shame on Mumbai. At one point,Bombay was the place to be..for all communities..a point of pride for bombay was its cosmopolitan spirit.sadly all kaput.<br />
Saturday at 10:45 · Like</li>
<li>Richa Sharma imagine ALL the blessings u will get!<br />
Saturday at 11:06 · Like ·  1 person</li>
<li>Yirmiyan Arthur What about Nagas, Neelesh?<br />
Saturday at 11:53 · Like</li>
<li>Neelesh Misra <a href="mailto:‎@Yan">‎@Yan</a>: Yes they are most welcome. But isn&#8217;t that more of a Delhi mentality? Or is Mumbai equally discriminatory towards Nagas and other people from the northeast?<br />
Saturday at 12:02 · Like</li>
<li>Richa Sharma <a href="mailto:‎@Neelesh">‎@Neelesh</a>: Much as it makes me feel bad, i have to agree with u.<br />
This is a Delhi mentality. Pathetic.<br />
Saturday at 12:33 · Like</li>
<li>Jerry Harel when i was in a taxi in mumbai. a hijda approached me for bagging. i said &#8220;nahin. kam karo&#8221;. he said : &#8220;kaun hijda ko kam dega ?&#8221;. i gave him some money. then i thought i&#8217;d better say : &#8220;jis kaa dil achchhaa hai. vo zaroor degaa&#8221;. but it&#8217;s probably to optimistic to imagine<br />
Saturday at 12:44 · Unlike ·  2 people</li>
<li>Maya Mirchandani when I become very rich I will leave all these cities and go live on the beach where NO ONE above the age of 5 is welcome without my permission. Caste/Community/Ethnicity/Relgion/Gender not withstanding.<br />
Saturday at 12:49 · Unlike ·  2 people</li>
<li>Subhash Pathak I would love to find some room in ur appt for those who spend thier nights on pavements under open sky&#8230;. just to save them from speeding cars of Salmans&#8230;<br />
Saturday at 14:17 · Like</li>
<li>Ganesan Kannuchamy Why only Muslims? As if all the other religious people had got an acre of land and penthouse each in Mumbai.<br />
Saturday at 15:40 · Like ·  1 person</li>
<li>Muzamil Jaleel <a href="mailto:‎@Maya">‎@Maya</a> &#8211; what will happen once the children grow older &#8211; I mean once they turn 6<br />
Saturday at 15:43 · Like</li>
<li>Ranvijay Singh Satyaketu Unhen sabase pahale diya jana chahiye kyonki is desh me aisa sahas dikhana unake aantarik kuwwat ka praman hai.<br />
Saturday at 17:06 · Like</li>
<li>Naziya Alvi Hi Hi Hi, wish u all the best, i ll prefer the top floor <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Saturday at 17:42 · Like</li>
<li>Maya Mirchandani <a href="mailto:‎@muz">‎@muz</a>- as long as they get to me before they are 5 they can stay.<br />
Saturday at 17:49 · Like</li>
<li>Debasish Roy I plan to build railway links as radii to Mumbai from the rest of Maharashtra so that people stop being obsessed about living in Mumbai between open toilets<br />
Saturday at 19:17 · Like</li>
<li>Sonali Singh SOoo Nice of U , Wish U Buckets of GOOD LUCK<br />
Saturday at 21:16 · Like</li>
<li>Akhil Mehra Pseudo secular<br />
Trying to apeace muslims. Why only muslims? Why not poor people across caste,age n gender. Why not Sr Citizens who don&#8217;t hve anybody to look after. There a lot of groups that need shelter in Mumbai. Try to broaden yr vision<br />
Saturday at 21:33 · Like</li>
<li>Akhil Mehra Dislike<br />
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<li>Neelesh Misra <a href="mailto:‎@Ganesan">‎@Ganesan</a> and Akhil: Don&#8217;t give me the pseeudo-secular argument now!! I have written my mantra on the top left for people like you only: &#8220;I prefer a label on my forehead to blinkers on my eyes.&#8221; &#8230; I am cool with being called pseudo-secular. I have often been called communal as well! But I am pretty sure you have never been told your face: &#8220;You are Muslim? Then I am sorry.&#8221; My broker was diseartened to know I am single, but felt reasssured when he realised that I am at least Hindu.<br />
Saturday at 21:47 · Unlike ·  2 people</li>
<li>Udaiveer Singh Rathore well there is place like this in Andheri (west) called MILLAT NAGAR, where the first 2 of the above, objectives are met, in true splendor.<br />
Saturday at 23:44 · Like</li>
<li>Udaiveer Singh Rathore just for F&#8217;s sake&#8230;<br />
n legally, if u say ONLY, then u wont qualify as a CHS (co-op Hsng Scty) as we know &#8211; practice in bumbay.<br />
i wud do the same for ANY one, who doesn&#8217;t have a place, to sleep, watch films, do STUFF, chill&#8230;<br />
n not selling one&#8217;self everyday, to JUST LIVE another DAY.</li>
<li>&#8230; on grounds totally non-theist.<br />
Wonder y u wud, say such a thing after ur recent book.<br />
ppl live by POPULAR perceptions- the HERD mentallity &#8211; is built in. (?)<br />
Saturday at 23:50 · Like</li>
<li>Udaiveer Singh Rathore single men YMCA<br />
single women YWCA.<br />
well they do have madarssas , convents&#8230; ;-]<br />
Saturday at 23:51 · Like</li>
<li>Neelesh Misra <a href="mailto:‎@Udaiveer">‎@Udaiveer</a>; Totally agree with you.<br />
Saturday at 23:52 · Like</li>
<li>Ganesan Kannuchamy <a href="mailto:‎@Neelesh">‎@Neelesh</a>, I&#8217;ve never branded you any name for sure. My argument was why did your status say people of a particular religion were at risk buying or renting a home in Mumbai while there are places like Byculla in the city where you could see more Muslims.., only Muslims and less non-Muslims. Didn&#8217;t your broker take you there? Wonder if your broker is prejudiced.<br />
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<li>Parag Bhuptani Wow. Imagine a jet propelld lift, anti gravity on top floor&#8230; Suicides frm top floor nt possible..and the only building with a killer view of the stary nights&#8230;lots of adventure sports&#8230;additional revenue by renting out the space shuttle launch pad on the top to nasa&#8230;boss u are a visionary!<br />
Yesterday at 01:06 · Like</li>
<li>Parag Bhuptani Do you think we will need a visa to stay on top floors? U must name it &#8216;STRATOSPHERE&#8217; or &#8216;SPACE&#8217; or &#8216;ANTARIKSH&#8217;&#8230; I can make a brochure already.<br />
Yesterday at 01:19 · Like</li>
<li>Udaiveer Singh Rathore well, for the record,<br />
no homo sexuals (lesbians on case by case basis!!!!)<br />
no police, well no one from the AUTHORITIES at all.<br />
new different PENAL CODE.<br />
free internet&#8230;.<br />
calls for a new POST!<br />
Yesterday at 02:56 · Like</li>
<li>Udaiveer Singh Rathore read the FINE PRINT<br />
10,OOO STORIES!!!<br />
Yesterday at 02:58 · Like</li>
<li>Rajiv Vijayakar Neelesh-ji, reversal of discrimination often becomes discriminatiopn of a different kind. There are Gujarati and other societies that prohibit non-vegetarians too &#8211; in the name of morality. I hope that certain &#8216;Vishesh&#8217; people are not behind your beginning to think along such lines!<br />
18 hours ago · Like</li>
<li>Neelesh Misra <a href="mailto:‎@Rajiv">‎@Rajiv</a> ji, this conversation has totally spiralled from where it began! It was written in just a moment of poetic angst when a every single broker told me that I will have a great problem getting a place because I am single. I know that pa&#8230;<br />
See more<br />
17 hours ago · Like</li>
<li>Neelesh Misra I stand corrected, I need to amend this &#8230; The 10,000 storey building (!!) shall include EVERYONE turned away by housing societies, whichever faith they might belong to and whatever their marital status! Meanwhile, my house search continues. I have some on the shortlis, finally. Wish me luck.<br />
15 hours ago · Unlike ·  1 person</li>
<li>Ganesan Kannuchamy <a href="mailto:‎@Neelesh">‎@Neelesh</a>, wish you good luck.<br />
13 hours ago · Like</li>
<li>Riyaz Fida Neelesh: You are the best! Thanks for speaking out. We all go through such things in life. For something or other about us, we are discriminated against &#8211; single men, muslim, kashmiri muslim, non-veg, north-eastern, this shit, that shit. We overlook, carry on. This is as much our country as anyone else&#8217;s, why accept this &#8211; we must confront this prejudice and eliminate it.<br />
12 hours ago · Like</li>
<li>Rajiv Vijayakar Like you, it&#8217;s a deplorable statement in a film that has made me justifiably angry, and not just for a moment. Crook being a bad film is fine, but to insinuate that a fanatic Indian, actually precipitated a series of events that made racist&#8230;<br />
See more<br />
8 hours ago · Like</li>
<li>Udaiveer Singh Rathore ppl see neelesh has CHANGED, owiing to SEVERVE FB pressure,<br />
now EVERYONE is OK!<br />
well book me on the 3rd floor anyways, as long as i can climb up n down w/ out a lift, its fine.<br />
still no cops, or homo-sexuals on my floor please.<br />
6 hours ago · Like</li>
<li>Praggamoy Dasgupta Sir i have a not so wise decision &#8211; either get married else follow the principle followed by illegal immigrants around the world to masquerade immigration officials ( in your case its brokers<br />
6 hours ago · Unlike ·  1 person</li>
<li>Udaiveer Singh Rathore <a href="mailto:‎@DASg">‎@DASg</a>. u dont have to buy a cow to have milk.<br />
as the saying says.<br />
n as u not so wise. tru.<br />
5 hours ago · Like</li>
<li>Praggamoy Dasgupta you mean its a wise stratgy to implement<br />
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<li>Udaiveer Singh Rathore tell sudhir mishra, u will name the building&#8230;<br />
&#8220;&#8230; Hazaro Khawaise asi&#8230;<br />
&#8230; ki har floor par, dum nikle&#8230;&#8221;<br />
&#8230;well not sudhir then ghalib-sir for sure!!!<br />
dont paint it red, then ppl will think its in calcutta. ;-]<br />
5 hours ago · Like</li>
<li>Praggamoy Dasgupta why calcutta , could be kerela too or maybe NDTV&#8217;s office <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
5 hours ago · Like</li>
<li>Udaiveer Singh Rathore i don&#8217;t rem, Kerla having LARGE RED BUILDING, like the Writers or Howrah stn, or any of the govt buildg, i thought it pre-dated the REDs, commis. (correct me&#8230;) NDTV is a bengalee, conspiracy, sarbo-nash&#8230;<br />
5 hours ago · Like</li>
<li>Praggamoy Dasgupta Sorry i mistook the irony of the colour RED in similarity with communism <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
5 hours ago · Like</li>
<li>Udaiveer Singh Rathore well the irony of RED was INTENDED, n still is,<br />
all i said was, RED-Govt buildings, are found r in Cal only cause u see them like that in films etc.<br />
Waiting for mamZ CHOLBE NAAAA&#8230;<br />
&#8230; the building shud have an area 4 protest, demostrations, w/ a apartment close by for MAMz. ;-]<br />
5 hours ago · Like</li>
<li>Praggamoy Dasgupta hahaha , i know in calcutta go to the sahid minar prangan at around 12 in the afternoon there will be a political proceeding in process .</li>
<li>Samrat X         Good luck, mate. I went through the Bombay househunting experience, and discovered that the great metropolis is really a very large collection of ghettos. Hindu (various kinds), Muslim, Jain, Parsi, Catholic, etc. There are some general rich people ghettos and poor people ghettos too. It&#8217;s the only city I&#8217;ve been to where there&#8217;s a class system even in the building lifts. One for rich people, one for the &#8216;staff&#8217;. Also, the &#8216;cosmo&#8217; crowd that gets drunk 5 nights a week at Zenzi or posher places don&#8217;t know any Marathi speakers at all, unless they&#8217;re deracinated. Great effing city.</li>
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Abugida is a writing system, a Class, of HINDI/DEVNAGRI like SCRIPTS...
that basically ADD or RMOVE the VOWELs by MAKING CHANGES, to the alphabet...

considering SMS lingo, it makes a lot of sense to know, what HINDI HAS BEEN THRU,

imagine the posibilities of ENLARGING the KEYBOARD PALLETE, by simple "transform" keys like SHIFT/ alt/...
a New transform key, say "pulls" the BASE of the alphabet towards itself/opp/left/right..
a new key FLOP/mirror-image
a new key to insert the HORIZONTAL bar in hindi, using a regular KB/ unicode/ascii set of keys.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=udaiveer.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5677645&amp;post=795&amp;subd=udaiveer&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<div>Abugida is a writing system, a Class, of HINDI/DEVNAGRI like SCRIPTS&#8230;</div>
<div>that basically ADD or RMOVE the VOWELs by MAKING CHANGES, to the alphabet&#8230;</div>
<div> </div>
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<div>considering SMS lingo, it makes a lot of sense to know, what HINDI HAS BEEN THRU,</div>
</blockquote>
<div> </div>
<div style="text-align:center;">imagine the posibilities of ENLARGING the KEYBOARD PALLETE, by simple &#8220;transform&#8221; keys like SHIFT/ alt/&#8230;</div>
<div style="text-align:center;">a New transform key, say &#8220;pulls&#8221; the BASE of the alphabet towards itself/opp/left/right..</div>
<div style="text-align:center;">a new key FLOP/mirror-image</div>
<div style="text-align:center;">a new key to insert the HORIZONTAL bar in hindi, using a regular KB/ unicode/ascii set of keys.</div>
<p>An <strong>abugida</strong> (pronounced <a title="Wikipedia:IPA for English" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English">/ˌɑːbuːˈɡiːdə/</a>, from <a title="Ge'ez language" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ge%27ez_language">Ge‘ez</a> አቡጊዳ <em>’äbugida</em>),</p>
<p> is a <a title="Writing system" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing_system">writing system</a> which is</p>
<h2>based on <a title="Consonant" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consonant">consonants</a>, and in which <a title="Vowel" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vowel">vowel</a> notation is obligatory but secondary.</h2>
<p>This contrasts with an <a title="Alphabet" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet">alphabet</a> proper, with an <a title="Abjad" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abjad">abjad</a>, in which vowel marking is absent or optional.</p>
<p>The term <strong><em>abugida</em></strong> is an Ethiopian name of the<strong> Ge‘ez </strong>script, <em><strong>’ä bu gi da</strong>,</em> taken from four letters of the <em><strong>Ge&#8217;ez script,</strong></em> the way AB<em>eCeDary</em> derives from Latin <em>a be ce de.<strong> (A B C D   )</strong></em></p>
<p>In general, a letters are written as a linear sequence, in most cases left to right.</p>
<p>Vowels are written through modification of these consonant letters,</p>
<p>either by means of <a title="Diacritic" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diacritic">diacritics</a> (which may be opposite of direction of writing the letters)</p>
<p>or by changes in the form of the letter itself.</p>
<ul>
<li>a modification which explicitly indicates the lack of a vowel (<a title="Virama" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virama">virama</a>),</li>
<li>a lack of vowel marking</li>
<li>vowel marking for a short or neutral vowel</li>
<li><a title="Typographic ligature" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typographic_ligature">conjunct consonant</a> letters where <strong>two or more letters are graphically joined in a <a title="Typographic ligature" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typographic_ligature">ligature</a></strong>, or</li>
<li>dependent consonant signs,(smaller or differently placed versions of the full consonant letters, or may be distinct signs altogether).</li>
</ul>
<p>or superscript.</p>
<p>There are three principal families of abugidas, depending on whether vowels are indicated by modifying consonants by <em>diacritics, distortion,</em> or <em>orientation.</em><sup><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abugida#cite_note-3">[4]</a></sup></p>
<ul>
<li>The oldest and largest is the Brahmic family of India and Southeast Asia,</li>
</ul>
<p> in which vowels are marked with <a title="Diacritic" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diacritic">diacritics</a> and syllable-final consonants, or are indicated with <a title="Typographic ligature" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typographic_ligature">ligatures</a>, or with a special <a title="Virama" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virama">vowel-canceling mark</a>.</p>
<p style="padding-left:120px;"><span style="color:#000000;">In the <span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>Ethiopic family</strong></span>, vowels are marked by <strong>modifying the shapes of the consonants</strong>, Pulling the Letter.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left:120px;"><span style="color:#000000;">In the <span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong><a title="Canadian Aboriginal syllabics" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Aboriginal_syllabics">Cree family</a></strong>,</span> vowels are marked by<strong> rotating or flipping the consonants</strong>, or are indicated with either special diacritics or superscript forms of the main initial consonants.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">The Indic scripts originated in <a title="India" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India">India</a> and spread to <a title="Southeast Asia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia">Southeast Asia</a>.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">All surviving Indic scripts are descendants of the Brahmi alphabet.  Today they are used in most languages of <a title="South Asia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Asia">South Asia</a> (although replaced by Perso-Arabic in <a title="Urdu" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu">Urdu</a>, n <a title="Kashmiri language" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmiri_language">Kashmiri</a>) and mainland <a title="Southeast Asia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia">Southeast Asia</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">They can be a  primary division is into </span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="color:#000000;">North Indic scripts used in Northern India, Nepal, Tibet, Bhutan and </span></li>
<li><span style="color:#000000;">Southern Indic scripts used in <a title="South India" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_India">South India</a>, <a title="Sri Lanka" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lanka">Sri Lanka</a>, and <a title="Southeast Asia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia">Southeast Asia</a>. </span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">South Indic letter forms are very rounded; North Indic less so</span></p>
<p>Most North Indic scripts&#8217; full letters incorporate<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;"> a horizontal line at the top</span></strong>, with <a title="Gujarati script" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gujarati_script">Gujarati script</a> an exception; South Indic scripts do not.</p>
<p>Indic scripts indicate vowels through dependent vowel signs (<em>diacritics</em>) around the consonants, often including <em>a sign </em>that explicitly indicates the lack of a vowel. If a consonant has no vowel sign, this indicates a default vowel. Vowel diacritics may appear<em><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong> above, below, to the left, to the right, or around the consonant.</strong></span></em></p>
<p>The most populous Indic script is <a title="Devanagari" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devanagari">Devanagari</a>,</p>
<p style="text-align:left;padding-left:120px;"><span style="color:#000000;"> </span></p>
<p style="text-align:left;padding-left:120px;"><span style="color:#000000;">; the advent of vowels coincided with the introduction of Christianity about 350 CE</span></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 17:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>if you look around in the present world and history itself, it has always been that ONE person who&#8217;s made a difference in the rest of humanity&#8217;s lives. Just that one person.. From Mahatma Gandhi to Nelson Mandela in liberating India a&#8230;nd abolishing apartheid .. From Humphrey Davey to Steve Jobs in creating the first light bulb to revolutionizing the human interface technologies.. The list is endless.<br />
As Margaret Mead said, &#8220;only a handful of determined people can bring about Change.. Never trust governments to do that for you&#8221;.<br />
As Mahatma Gandhi said, &#8220;Be the change you want to see in the world&#8221;.</p>
<p>I battled with similar questions as yourself about 4 yrs back when I turned Vegetarian and then Vegan, but today with that one change starting with myself, I have helped others turn to Veganism and they are furthering it in turn. The chain has started and it&#8217;s growing.</p>
<p>Take sides.. Being neutral only helps the Oppressor.</p></blockquote>
<div><a href="mailto:m@Arun">@Arun</a>,<br />
i understand the power of 1.<br />
n here u r not jusut fighting 4 change in a certain peoples&#8217;s life style,<br />
but the entire gamut, of Religions, faith, habbits, traditions.<br />
What u PREACH about ANIMALS sounds too far fectched to make any REAL &#8230;DIFFERENCE.<br />
Being a VEGAN, puts u on the same pedestal as any HARD-LINER, Fundamentalist&#8230;<br />
The Tohra/old testmnt, the Ko&#8217;ran are, all for animal EATTING/ sacrifice.<br />
though Most of them (scriptures do have an element of RESPECT the LIFE of the animal)<br />
n thats as far as i wud go.<br />
Eating an animal is not akin to being cruel to it.<br />
Sure its not a NOBEL DEED thats gonna get u a standing ovation.<br />
I am from the Rajput community (rajasthan), here MEAT (RED) is almost a Ritualistic meal.<br />
Even Kids n Animals/dogs/cats, have a built in liking for meat, ( may i say ACROSS cultures).<br />
Now U might have had a Personal EXPERIRENCE, that has made u take up a POISTION on it.<br />
But just calling meat-eaters Cruel is no SOLUTION or can it bring any change. Correct me, here, pl.</div>
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<p>REPLY</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll start by commenting on the &#8216;fundamentalist&#8217; comment. I hope to establish a to and fro, where there&#8217;s something to be learnt on either sides.</p>
<p>Veganism is about living a life of compassion and empathy for all living beings, both hu&#8230;man and non-human. Most vegans prefer to start undoing the wrong at the grass roots level ie; the animals. They further voice against every injustice done including humans.<br />
Once you understand this basic fact, you will appreciate, why veganism calls for absolutism in abolishing all forms of animal use (abuse).</p>
<p>Not all vegans use the same approach in bringing about this awareness for a social change in our society, world wide. Most show case violence so that urbanites especially the Gen Y, who may never have touched a goat, know what they&#8217;re eating and what entails, next time they order a mutton dish. Personally, I have stopped showing violence as I have a different approach and I&#8217;ve realized it doesn&#8217;t help much. Then, there is ALF, who has a different approach. To bring about a Change as big as we&#8217;re planning for, you need all approaches that are out there.. Different people respond differently.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind called whatever as long as it will help bring this awareness.</p>
<p>Evolution is a pre-requisite as a mature human. We continuously evolve from where we were yesterday. Literally ! We evolve every single day, believe it or not.. In thoughts, words and actions ! If we don&#8217;t , some&#8217;s amiss. Would&#8230;n&#8217;t you agree ?</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the one thing, that most of us can&#8217;t seem to get over or be rational about or where all of our education and free thinking minds take a back seat is &#8212; Religion. Religion is the one single thing that has done more harm than the collective good it&#8217;s done.<br />
It is man made ! Why can&#8217;t people see that ? All the scriptures of all the religions in the world have been written through word of mouth and the best interpreter. Religion has been created by people to control them.</p>
<p>What sane person, let alone God, will ask for blood in exchange for a wish ?? If a religion asks for sacrifice, that&#8217;s the end of that religion as far as I am concerned.</p></blockquote>
<p>@ thanks, for being patient n polite, unlike some others! ;-]<br />
hummm&#8230;<br />
points, I wud like to note, EVOLUTION, Religion&#8230;<br />
Well evolution for me as Darwin put it, RANDOM, mutations, changes, adapting better to the environment, to MULTIPLY MORE.<br />
Logically, it wud be not right to assume that Humans ARE GODS OWN CREATIONS. i mean we can&#8217;t be put US in a diff class, than other Primates, animals.<br />
The evolution/mature-ing of Humans as u put it, seems to me as a point, of POST-RELIGION-ious -  dogma. driven mind, to justify, its ability to EMPATHISES (!)!<br />
If ur point was to be furthered, Being a VEGAN is the result of EVOLUTIONARY pressures on the human society. I think this is far rfom true.<br />
Well there can be / might be Benificial to some to adopt a Herbivore ( cant find a better word) way of Life, n just saying its HUMANE, n JUST, is no REASON, for it be have Evolutionary Pressures.</p>
<p>Well Totally agree with u on Religion. n the neo trend of trying to prove that a  certain Religion, is scientific, is totally missing the point.<br />
No Scipture or teachings can be held to be Absoluth truth, to begin with.<br />
No Relegion ( i know of) is SELF CORRECTING, Changable, n advocates questioning of ITSELF.<br />
 (well i say this too often c my blog for what i think of religion, evolution et al   udaiveer/wordpress.com)</p>
<p>Science has NO PLACE IN RELIGION, if it has, then at best, it&#8217;s job is to SPREAD &#8220;LIGHT&#8221; where  there was none.</p>
<p>Religion occupies those DARK spaces in our &#8220;BEING&#8221; that, Science has not yet LITE up.<br />
&#8221; What sane person, let alone God, will ask for blood in exchange for a wish ?? &#8220;<br />
I think nothing says it better.<br />
( a bit of personal stuff if u dont mind, u a RC?&#8230;<br />
 as the JEWS are potrayed in the Christian Writing/history&#8230;<br />
&#8230;about Killing/crucifing Jesus&#8230;<br />
&#8230;y the F..K wud anyone, say.<br />
KILL HIM. KILL HIM (jesus)<br />
&#8230;and Let HIS BLOOD BE UPON US, and OUR CHILDREN (to be Born)<br />
y wud Jews b so STUPID as to ASK (the Roman BOSS) to be BLAMED for MURDER of &#8220;THE CHRIST&#8221;<br />
it&#8217;s plane bull from the Vatican.<br />
Religion, POISIONS, everything it touches</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 17:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Udaiveer Singh Rathore</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> an idea for an app, device, plu-in. that is able to send a SOS, message no matter &#8220;WHERE-WHEN- ever, ANY how&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>SOS for everyone &#8211; old n sick n kids etc&#8230; especially</p>
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<li>TAGETED TOWARDS. young childs same 10-16 GIRLS from say 9-18 years Imagine a 13 yr old girl, who lands up in shit, say an Uncle of her Drunk or whatever, is attempting to DO SOME BAD THING(this is legal part)</li>
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<p>n maybe just at a push of a BUTTON on the Mobile, on an iPod, ipad, ivodo, snifrr&#8230; or just on a braclet, a Hair-Pin (well women r stamrtr theY will find THEIR PLACE :-]</p>
<h2><span style="color:#ff9900;"> An ALARM/SOS, is sent &#8211; </span></h2>
<p>with GPS, enabled, lets them <span style="color:#ff9900;">Know the LOCATION. of BREACH</span>. (kind of location device Mouintainers use, &#8211; a Orange Block with a beeper!)</p>
<h4>Process</h4>
<p>1. to 3 PEERS of the Persom/users&#8217; choice (who to -&#8217;might have to be members too&#8217; ?) more on that later. 2. These 3 PEERS are BOUND/HAVE TO. Whats&#8217; happening? 3. Call, or msg, 4. TRY TO GET THERE, ASAP. or see if one of ur MATES/PEER is Closer to the LOCAtion than U R. (This will work great for intra- Family abuse.) 5. The SOSs can be kind of Rated 1 , 2 or 3 as per what the user, pervices the treat as eg threat level 1 is say a girl &#8220;feels &#8221; threre is someone following her, eg. possible Assault. level 2 or 3 n so on&#8230; hightest being sexual assault -Killing. IMPORTANT ; to keep cranks at bay&#8230; . but ONCE THE SOS IS SENT. the sender has to be CONTACTED, n PHYSICALLY CHECKED ( in Authorities feel they can conduct, some medical/legal test, checks) 6. Say a Level 1 SOS, has to ANSWERED. in say 30 mins. start by sending ur VIA SOSs. to ur 3 mates/peer Going by EXPONENTIAL GROWTH, soon the no. cud be in million or billions, n then if NO ALL OK MSG is SENT, LEVEL goes up to 2, another 15 mins Level 3. POLICE COMES IN. anything&#8217;s possible. if ONE is will to SHARE with JUST YOUR MATES!!! THINK i know sounds queer. i&#8217;ll spell it out better, another Imagine is society (some other word perhaps) of just females. -push the idea, the society is a kind of Sorority &#8211; of female &#8211; HYDRO-phons (WATER-LOVING) run an DO-IT-ALL NURSES, HELP, Mother, Daughter. like say they might be called NUNs from a Convent. (i mean something like that) they assist as pure HUMANS, to help, old-aged, children, across the AIRPORTS OF THE WORLD Say a DHL-meets DOMINOS meets Mother Theresa&#8230; gtg. udaiveer. (PS- dont accecpt any mail from my udaiveer at HOTMAIL dot COM acc, it&#8217;s behaving strange)</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE DON&#8217;T QUOTE, SCIENCE, at the drop of a hat.</p>
<p>a case in point is the &#8220;cherry picking&#8221; lines off Carl Sagan&#8221;, if i get the source right, the orgins of Carl Sagan&#8217;s statement lies, in his TV series The COSMOS. (?) well to complete the story Carl&#8217;s, offers an open CHALLENGE to all, to PROVE IT (religion in this case), &#8220;scientifically.&#8221; ie. repeatable, independently, Now to point. Why does a religion, even bother to get a VERIFIED/CERTIFIED BY SCIENCE, stamp in the first place. Religion exists where science doe not. n looking in hind-sight, an mooling over who, DISCOVERED the PYTHAGOROAS Theorem,  SHOW US SOME KNOWLEDGE, that the SAID SACRED VEDDAS have. well that hasn&#8217;t been SOURCED from out-side&#8230; &#8230;if u want to prove that the HARRAPAN culture was VEDIC, then the burden of proof lies with u. since u make this claim, proove it.</p>
<p>at-least start by COLLECTING A PICTORIAL RECORD OF ALL THE HARRAPAN inscriptions&#8230;</p>
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